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Question TE25 TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130. me 6 2003-10-24 17:36:52
Question TDA1 How to apply shadow to font... Jaap 0 2003-10-21 22:00:31
Question TE25 Difference between source "16:9 625 line (PAL)" and "16:9 Display" geohei 5 2003-10-22 21:46:15
Question TE25 CQ prediction Krassi 3 2003-10-22 14:02:00
Question TE25 Convert Large AVI Files JBreits 2 2003-10-22 01:29:09
Question TE25 TMPGEnc error... x22 4 2003-10-22 21:03:20
Question TE25 wrong total frames mpeg2 fank 1 2003-10-21 21:17:00
Question TE25 Merge and Cut causes Nero "Stream encoding ... invalid" Joe 1 2003-10-21 21:13:08
Question TE25 missing last frames Paul 1 2003-10-21 21:08:22
Question TE25 converting AVI to DVD...file size too big? DTrenkner 6 2003-10-22 00:11:13
Question TE25 Fitting on a CD-R Sakuya 2 2003-10-22 03:29:17
Question TDA1 matt clueless 2 2003-10-22 19:14:44

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Question - TE25 - TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130. No.39555
me  2003-10-21 23:47:02 ( ID:4wr3qfkxg.n )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

so why is everyone talking about TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130. when I can only see 2.521 available ?


ashy  2003-10-22 01:23:51 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130. is an earlier version than Version 2.521.58.169

The way to look at it is like this:
TMPG is currently at version 2.5 revision 21 or as in the case of the earlier version v2.5 revision 3.

Get it?


Me  2003-10-22 11:41:01 ( ID:4wr3qfkxg.n )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Say that again :)

TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130 (Out somewhere)
TMPGEnc Plus v2.521 (2.521.58.169)

The first has a higher number not lower ?

TMPG is currently at version 2.5 revision 21 or as in the case of the earlier version v2.5 revision 3.


TMPGEnc Plus v2.5 revision 33 not 21 !!



Me  2003-10-22 11:47:39 ( ID:4wr3qfkxg.n )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGEnc Plus v2.53.35.130 ( 2.5 rev 3)
TMPGEnc Plus v2.521.58.169 (2.5 rev 21)

Ok get it, they got me thinking what someone posted "New Out" :)


ashy  2003-10-22 18:13:59 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]


>The first has a higher number not lower ?

>TMPG is currently at version 2.5 revision 21 or as in the case of the earlier version v2.5 revision 3.


>TMPGEnc Plus v2.5 revision 33 not 21 !!<<<<<<<<<<<<<WHAT???


Hmm...The first does NOT have a higher number 2.53 is not higher than 2.521, but 2.530 would be. That is not the current version though 2.521 is.

OK....?


gbagman37  2003-10-24 06:01:35 ( ID:aks1ajzl/6r )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Funny math


ashy  2003-10-24 17:36:52 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What's so funny about it, why can't people understand it when it's so obviously simple.

2.53 > 2.54 > 2.55 > 2.56 > 2.57 > 2.58 > 2.59 > 2.510 > 2.511 > 2.512 .... and so on, all the way to 2.521.... simple isn't it?




Question - TDA1 - How to apply shadow to font... No.48813
Jaap  2003-10-21 22:00:31 ( ID:nbpc6d.5p6. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Several standard themes like "Cloud" and "Cool" have shadow
effect applied to font. I can not find a way to apply the
shadow to fonts in my own themes...

Is this missing or do I have to look better?


Jaap



Question - TE25 - Difference between source "16:9 625 line (PAL)" and "16:9 Display" No.39549
geohei  2003-10-21 21:16:01 ( ID:u0jg/e92qjw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Can someone tell me the difference between the source "16:9 625 line (PAL)" and "16:9 Display"?

TIA


ashy  2003-10-22 00:53:32 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

"16:9 625 line (PAL)" is a source captured in PAL resolution and is intended for viewing at 16:9

"16:9 Display" is a source that is not in PAL or NTSC resolution but just a standard 16:9 ratio such as DVD.
Most DVD's use 16:9 display and not PAL or NTSC resolutions as many would expect.
The only difference as far as the image is concerned between a PAL and an NTSC DVD is that in a PAL DVD the black borders will be bigger, the actual image is the exact same size as an NTSC image therefore using the source input ratio as PAL or NTSC will distort the aspect ratio slightly.


geohei  2003-10-22 06:18:07 ( ID:u0jg/e92qjw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I did some test runs. You are right, the borders are bigger with 16:9 PAL/NTSC. I am surprised to hear that most DVDs are 16:9, and not 16:9 PAL/NTSC. Can you tell me what the difference is, and how I can see on the box whether it's 16:9 or 16:9 PAL/NTSC? I checked all my DVDs (Europe) and they show ...
- 2.35:1 (aspect ratio approx)
- Widescreen version 16:9
- PAL
Should I use here 16:9 or 16:9 PAL as source selection in TMPGEnc?

TIA


Me  2003-10-22 11:52:16 ( ID:4wr3qfkxg.n )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

see if this helps
http://www.movieking.co.uk/visitors/vcd-television.html


ashy  2003-10-22 18:30:03 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

As I have already said you should always use 16:9 display for DVD sources or as for that matter most 16:9 sources.

I know it says 16:9 PAL on a DVD or 16:9 NTSC, that is just to let you know the format and for which system it is compatible for, it doesn't relate to it's actual aspect ratio.
There are certain flags in a PAL DVD to let the DVD player know it is in the PAL format, so it plays at the right speed and adjusts the frame size and aspect ratio accordingly.

As for 2.35:1 on some DVD's. This the actual aspect ratio of the cinema screen and the image on the DVD, but since this is wider than a 16:9 screen there will be small black borders added above and below the actual image to make it 16:9.



geohei  2003-10-22 21:46:15 ( ID:u0jg/e92qjw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks for the infos!



Question - TE25 - CQ prediction No.39545
Krassi  2003-10-21 19:55:02 ( ID:.uqsmeme20w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I want to make filesize predicition mit Constant Quality. My problem is the that the CQ curve and the encoded filesize doesn't behave linear. Sometimes theres no change in filesize even if i increase/decrease it with a value of 5-10.
I also noticed that depending on start from a high or low cq-value the filesize of the same cq is different.

Is there any way (e.g. formula) to be able to calculate this or are there any plans to make the curve linear?

The 2-pass is hitting the filesize right on target, but i want to use CQ (better quality).

Thanks for making the best encoder!


Minion  2003-10-21 21:34:43 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

No the CQ Method is Pretty Hit and Miss when trying to predict file sizes and I don"t know of a way to accurately predict them, I have even gotten different file sizes useing the same file with the same Settings in CQ....Good Luck


B_Racer  2003-10-22 09:19:33 ( ID:0jd4rmr3tyn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

There are Tools to predict the File-Sizes:

http://www.boraxsoft.de/CQTester.shtml

http://www.kvcd.net/CalcuMatic.exe


Krassi  2003-10-22 14:02:00 ( ID:.uqsmeme20w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks Minion, thanks B_Racer!
I know CQMatic. I'll take a loook at CQTester, thanks.



Question - TE25 - Convert Large AVI Files No.39542
JBreits  2003-10-21 19:25:44 ( ID:3/z0k74zo2h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have a large movie that I edited in adobe premier and exported to a DV AVI file. The file is about 1.5 hours long and about 19.5 GB. I now want to convert this to DVD format using TMPGEncode. However, when I actually begin the encoding process, I get and error that it could not open an avi that big. I also tried rendering the file in to several (23) separate avi's and naming them in sequence (I have TMPGEncode set to encode sequences as a single movie). TMPGEncode only picked up the first 15 files though.

Any suggestions on what I can do, I want to end up with a single DVD file.

Thanks,
Josh Breitbach
josh@breittechnologies.com


Minion  2003-10-21 21:31:11 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have never heard of any errors in Tmpgenc pertaining to not being able to open Big files.....I have opened and encoded files over 90gb in Tmpgenc without a Problem...Well First I would make sure that the Files are Numbered correctly as there could just be a simple Problem of the File name on file # 16 being Incorrect..But if that doesn"t work I guess you can try encodeing the First 15 files then encode the rest of them and join them together useing The "Merge & Cut" ...The Next time you output a Project in Premier Make sure that your Files are OpenDML Compliant and if you output to DV use a codec like the Microsoft DV codec as Tmpgenc seems to like this DV codec over others....cheers


JBreits  2003-10-22 01:29:09 ( ID:t/izlzje1yw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I don't know how to check if my files are OpenDML compliant but I did see a recommendation in another post to up the priority of the direct show file reader in the vfapi plugin settings. I upped it to 3 and the file opened and began to encode which is further than it got before. I will test this out and see how it goes.

Thanks,
JBreits



Question - TE25 - TMPGEnc error... No.39537
x22  2003-10-21 17:40:57 ( ID:.sesfvngmah )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I get an error when I try to import certain AVI files into tmpgenc, it only does it with certain one's, and I don't know why. Virtual Dub opens them all no problem.

See link for the error details...

Cheers..



http://www.x22.co.uk/tmpgenc_error.jpg


Minion  2003-10-21 21:22:28 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The answer is in this Forum hundreds of times...in Tmpgenc go to "options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Direct show File reader" to "2"...this should get those stubborn files loaded....Cheers


x22  2003-10-21 23:09:27 ( ID:.sesfvngmah )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It didnt work...

I raised the priority of that specific thing to 2, as you suggested, and it hasnt affected it. Still comes up with the same error (see previous post for error)

As i was writing this post, I was struck my common sense. I raised the avi file reader thing to 2, as-well as the directshow one, and tried to add the file.. works perfectly, see screenshot for settings. Thx guys :)

The following is a screenshot of my environmental settings tab thingy

http://www.x22.co.uk/tmpgenc_error2.jpg


ashy  2003-10-21 23:58:41 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

This is off topic, but jaysus it must take your PC an age to boot looking at all those programs that have loaded in the task bar!
Take my advice you don't need all those programs loading it will only slow your PC down and hog your memory, so remove some of them from start up and do yourself a favour.
Type MSCONFIG in the RUN bar and uncheck them from the 'start up'


x22  2003-10-22 21:03:20 ( ID:.sesfvngmah )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

hehe

I assure you, those are all necessary :) [excluding the nforce ones, had just installed new graphics driver :) ]

I run a heavy spec'd computer, and have no problems with shortage of memory :)



Question - TE25 - wrong total frames mpeg2 No.39535
fank  2003-10-21 17:40:13 ( ID:z4flcryo7pm )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

When I open an mpg2 file and I begin to encode, the number of total frames is wrong. It says 1948 total frames but I know my file has 1960 frames... Why?


Minion  2003-10-21 21:17:00 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well possibly your Mpeg2 file ends with an incomplete GOP so Tmpgenc is Cutting it off...Try setting the Beginning and end points of your file useing the "Source Range" and see if it reads all of the frames then....When I have a Mpeg2 source file that I need to encode I find the Best method is to use DVD2AVI and make a d2v Project file and load that into Tmpgenc to encode, it is faster this way and you don"t get problems like you are haveing....Cheers



Question - TE25 - Merge and Cut causes Nero "Stream encoding ... invalid" No.39533
Joe  2003-10-21 17:17:12 ( ID:knywcrnsfsf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have an MPEG1 video file that Nero will accept as valid for making a VCD, however the file is too large to fit on a single CD. I tried cutting it into two parts using Merge & Cut, but the files output by TMPGEnc cause Nero to issue an error "Stream encoding which is invalid for a [Super] Video CD".

I would expect Merge and Cut to produce output file(s) having the same characteristics as the input(s), but this doesn't seem to be the case. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug in TMPGEnc?


Minion  2003-10-21 21:13:08 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Your Problem isn"t Tmpgenc but the way you edited the file...When you edit the file you have to make sure that the Stream setting is set to the correct Format..Since you are editing a VCD then you should have the stream setting set to "Mpeg-1 Video-CD" or "Mpeg-1 Vodeo-CD(Non-Standard)" if you just leave it at the default setting of "Mpeg-1" then it will not output a VCD file but an Mpeg-1 file and there is a Differance of which you are learning now...All you have to do is Re-edit the files with the correct setting....



Question - TE25 - missing last frames No.39531
Paul  2003-10-21 16:46:53 ( ID:z4flcryo7pm )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Anyone knows why when encoding mpg2 with Tmpgenc, it chops off last few seconds at the end of the file?


Minion  2003-10-21 21:08:22 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If you used the Source range to choose the beginning and end point of the file then it shouldn"t do that....



Question - TE25 - converting AVI to DVD...file size too big? No.39524
DTrenkner  2003-10-21 15:17:03 ( ID:.qui0lgypoj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am new to DVD. I've encoded some VCD's using tmpgenc in the past with success, but in anticipation of my DVD burner I wanted to convert a couple AVI's (DivX) to burn to DVD. Here's my question, problem. When I load a default DVD template in TMPG it tells me I can fit 120-165min worth of video depending on the audio and video encoding I choose (CBR, PCM, etc, etc). That would be great because my AVI's are each about 50min each (qty. 3). So I choose 2Pass VBR, MpegII audio and load the AVI and choose all my settings and at the very end it reports just one AVI takes up 77% of the DVD (about 3.6gb). The problem is, it's telling me I can only fit about 65 minutes onto a DVD. I know I can manually limit the video bitrate and fit more, but what I don't understand is why the TMPG template doesn't do this by default? Why does it allude I can fit 2-3 hours of video onto DVD but than tell me I can only fit 1 hour? I guess more than anything, I'm confused as to why this isn't more user friendly, if it says using this method will allow 120 minutes of video when I select that it should allow 120 minutes of video. Any thoughts?


ashy  2003-10-21 17:33:03 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You seem to be bit confused.
Because you are using a VBR method of encoding TMPG will simply use the highest bitrate it can (while keeping within the limits) to maintain a high quality picture. At the moment your bitrate will be somewhere around 8000 kb/s.

So no matter what length of source you load it will always use up most of the disk. If you had a longer source then TMPG would automatically reduce the bitrate to accomodate the longer file.

What you need to do is number the 3 AVI's in sequence then load them and TMPG will then join all three toghether and treat them as one file and adjust the bitrate accordingly to fit it on to the DVD the bitrate will then go down to something around 4500 kb/s
You may need to go into the enviroment settings first to enable sequencial file opening.


DTrenkner  2003-10-21 18:41:46 ( ID:.qui0lgypoj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Ok, thanks for the clarification, that makes much more sense. I understand why it does that from one perspective, but it's very confusing when you're trying to cram something like home movies or TV episodes onto one disc because there is nothing that indicates it's trying to fit each file perfectly onto one disc. I'm not sure your suggestion will work in this case though. One AVI is in AC3 the other two aren't (it's not one movie, they're all seperate videos). I'm going to try that AC3ACM tonight when I get home and see I can get it work, otherwise I guess I'll have figure out the appropriate bitrate and encode each individually.


DTrenkner  2003-10-21 20:24:07 ( ID:.qui0lgypoj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Ok, thanks for the clarification, that makes much more sense. I understand why it does that from one perspective, but it's very confusing when you're trying to cram something like home movies or TV episodes onto one disc because there is nothing that indicates it's trying to fit each file perfectly onto one disc. I'm not sure your suggestion will work in this case though. One AVI is in AC3 the other two aren't (it's not one movie, they're all seperate videos). I'm going to try that AC3ACM tonight when I get home and see I can get it work, otherwise I guess I'll have figure out the appropriate bitrate and encode each individually.


DTrenkner  2003-10-21 20:57:34 ( ID:.qui0lgypoj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Ok, thanks for the clarification, that makes much more sense. I understand why it does that from one perspective, but it's very confusing when you're trying to cram something like home movies or TV episodes onto one disc because there is nothing that indicates it's trying to fit each file perfectly onto one disc. I'm not sure your suggestion will work in this case though. One AVI is in AC3 the other two aren't (it's not one movie, they're all seperate videos). I'm going to try that AC3ACM tonight when I get home and see I can get it work, otherwise I guess I'll have figure out the appropriate bitrate and encode each individually.


Minion  2003-10-21 21:07:13 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If you have an AVI with AC3 audio you should simple Just extract the AC3 as an ac3 audio file and use that as the audio in your DVD cuz AC3 is the best Format for DVD"s...You can extract the audio to AC3 useing Virtual Dub and AC3-Fix or BeSplit, if you need further instructions Post back....


ashy  2003-10-22 00:11:13 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Any bitrate calculator will tell you what bitrate you need to set for a 150 min movie. In this case the average bitrate would be 3850 kb/s.



Question - TE25 - Fitting on a CD-R No.39521
Sakuya  2003-10-21 06:44:23 ( ID:6y4cusar5hr )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I was wondering if I am using 80-minute with 750MB CD-Rs, can I fit 3 30-minute episodes on there with quality at 70? The first file is only about 230MB. So if I have 3 of those, it would only come out to 690MB. Will it fit on a CD-R? :( It is really important that I fit 3 to every CD-R or I will waste so much discs! I would even sacrifice the video quality!


ashy  2003-10-22 00:16:59 ( ID:n2grn9uovqo )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You've got me confused here.
>I was wondering if I am using 80-minute with 750MB CD-Rs

80 minute CDR's are 800mb not 750mb.

>The first file is only about 230MB

Is this an MPEG we are talking about? If so and all three are the same size then 690mb will easily fit a 74 min or 80 min CDR no problem.


Sakuya  2003-10-22 03:29:17 ( ID:6y4cusar5hr )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Sorry, guess I got mixxed up. So even if all 3 movies added up are over 80 minutes but is under 800MB, it can still fit on the CD-R?

(Actually, my CD-Rs are 80 minutes and 700MB. With overburning selected, I can burn up to 813MB)



Question - TDA1 - matt No.48810
clueless  2003-10-21 04:48:01 ( ID:o6suybbgqya )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

OK, an easy one. Why, even with the purchase of the TMPGEnc DVD authoring software can I...

1) Compress an avi file to an MPEG2 file, but...
2) Not be able to view it with even the latest version of Windows Media Player?

Further, I downloaded the Elecard MPEG2 decoder and was able to view these files for, you guessed it, 21 days. When, without warning all these files just appeared scrambly. Turns out, you have to contact the company for a license, which is fine...

But, does it really answer the question of why the heck did I just buy something that would write movie files that I can't watch? If the ENcoder is in the TMPGEnc DVD software why isn't the DEcoder? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.


B_Racer  2003-10-21 09:36:04 ( ID:0jd4rmr3tyn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

For a MPEG2-Playback-Decoder, any Company has to pay License-Fees. That's why most(!) DVD-Authoring-Programs don't come with such a Filter/Decoder. Only the expensive one's do include a Decoder.

For Playback MPEG2, you need a Software-DVD-Player. You can try Media Player Clasic from Sourceforge. It includes a simple Playback-Decoder.
Media Player from Microsoft don't come with a Decoder. Microsoft don't want to pay the License-Fee.


clueless  2003-10-22 19:14:44 ( ID:o6suybbgqya )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks! Still seems a little funny to me that authoring software doesn't make their own decoder and bundle that in with their software. It's kind of like not being able to purchase a car with power locks.



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